OF ALL THE PEOPLE TO GET "SIDEWAYS" WITH, WHY didn't Fani Willis do EVERYTHING "by the book" in dealing with Trump? What is it about Trump that would lead ANYONE to engage in questionable behavior? I also don't like all that CASH floating around! I NEVER did anything like that in my 38 years of law practice!
If Trump "gets off" because of this mess, Fani Willis should be reviewed by the Ga. State Bar.
Is there any way , legal or not, Biden can send the desperately needed money to Ukraine by going around Congress ?? And worry about the fallout later. Like Mr. Trump would do, without any hesitation.And do Americans realize this money will also go to American companies ?? Thank you, serwersb@gmail.com
Before I heard Ms. Fani testify, I was completely in her corner. My initiial reaction was this: So she had the hots for a co-worker; that is irrelevant to the infinitely graver charge that Trump, though odious machinations more common to banana republics, tried to steal an election and abort democratic processes.
Then I sufferred to hear her dim-witted testimony. 2 aspects of her testimony sickened me:
1) She asked the prosecutor, "What continent is Beliize in." Her intellectual mediocrity appalled me. I wonder what her LSAT score was.
2) She testified that she had cash transactions with her lover and that individual transactions totaled thousands of dollars. She also said that in her home she has up to 9K in cash. I know that drug dealers often prefer cash transactions as do terrorists and Anthony Soprano's friends. I got a sick feeling upon learning that a prosecutor has the same mores as the criminal class.
IF TRUMP IS LET OFF THE HOOK, IT WILL BE, IN PART, BECAUSE OF THE COLLAPSE OF STANDARDS IN OUR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SOCIETY. Fani Willis is a perfect example of why many people who hate Trump's guts will vote for him.
If Trump is let off the hook it will be largely due to the tyranny of governmental rule by a minority party that operates everywhere from state capitals to Washington DC. They have cleverly exploited the U.S. Constitution to gerrymander the U.S. House of Representatives, fill the U.S. Senate with members from empty states, capture the U.S. presidency by means of an undemocratic Electoral College, and dominate the U.S. Supreme Court by means of minority Senate rule by filibuster.
Of course, the GOP is a tyrannical, undemocratic institution dedicated to the proposition that the eradication of human freedom and the exaltation of the monied few is next to godliness.
We Dems should be able to skewer and slaughter them in debate, in the polls, in the competition for ideas. However, one of the reasons why we fail stems from the huge numbers of exceptionally mediocre people in our ranks.
For example, I once debated with a dem activist about the mid East. She declareed her preferences: First, she said she was on the side of the Egyptians. Then she said she was on the side of the "Arabians." Fiinally she indicated that her heart belonged to the Iranians. She did not know who she was for. She only knew that she enjoyed expressing her hatred for the Jews and Israel.
Just a reminder of the scope and importance of the upcoming ruling by Judge McAfee - the following list of indictments is under threat of being extinguished by an adverse ruling against DA Willis:
THE STATE OF GEORGIA V. DONALD JOHN TRUMP Counts 1,5,9,11,13,15,17,19,27,29,38-39 - RUDOLPH WILLIAM LOUIS GIULIANI Counts 1-3,6-7,9,11,13,15,17,19, 23-24 - JOHN C EASTMAN Counts 1-2,9, 11,13,15,17,19,27 - MARK RANDALL MEADOWS Counts 1,28 - KENNETH JOHN CHESEBRO Counts 1, 9,11,13,15,17,19 (separately pleaded guilty to one count) - JEFFREY BOSSERT CLARK Counts 1,22 - JENNA LYNN ELLIS Counts 1,2 - RAY STALLINGS SMIITH III Counts 1-2,4,6,9,11,13,15,17,19,23,25 - ROBERT DAVID CHEELEY Counts 1,9,11,13,15,17,19,23,26,41 - MICHAEL A. ROMAN Counts 1,9,11,13,15,17,19 - DAVID JAMES SHAFER Counts 1,8,10,12,14,16,18,40 - SIDNEY KATHERINE POWELL Counts 1,32-37 (separately pleaded guilty to six counts) - and 7 other defendants in this criminal indictment comprising 41 separate counts of fraudulent and/or conspiratorial actions allegedly to undermine the legal election in Georgia and prosecuted under the GA Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act.
If someday soon Judge Scott McAfee throws this necessary prosecution under the bus, that day will be remembered as a day of national infamy for centuries to come.
An excellent article. Having been a Fulton County voter I had special interest in the facts and listened to that audio call more than once. The whole time thinking that it would never be acceptable for any Democratic president to make such a call so how could it be possible for a republican president. I still can’t understand how anyone of a clear mind could not listen to the call with Trump and the Ga SoS and see exactly how corrupt Trump is. Thanks for the good and important work gentlemen.
Amen. Trump is complicit and to fail to see him as a corrupt person is to fail to see, period. Although, apparently many people refuse to understand what this means for themselves and the country. What a low point for our country.
What is of concern to me is that so many are disregarding the fact that Trump and his campaign staff actually were attempting to overturn the election. I see this trail as another distraction from the facts of the case! I read a funny story today regarding the fake elector strategy. One or more “fake electors” say they were tricked into becoming a fake elector! Sure they were!👺
Thanks to all for an excellent discussion on what is the legal complex situation that might allow to go forward one of the most decisive political trials in American history
OF ALL THE PEOPLE TO GET "SIDEWAYS" WITH, WHY didn't Fani Willis do EVERYTHING "by the book" in dealing with Trump? What is it about Trump that would lead ANYONE to engage in questionable behavior? I also don't like all that CASH floating around! I NEVER did anything like that in my 38 years of law practice!
If Trump "gets off" because of this mess, Fani Willis should be reviewed by the Ga. State Bar.
Just amazing!
Is there any way , legal or not, Biden can send the desperately needed money to Ukraine by going around Congress ?? And worry about the fallout later. Like Mr. Trump would do, without any hesitation.And do Americans realize this money will also go to American companies ?? Thank you, serwersb@gmail.com
Before I heard Ms. Fani testify, I was completely in her corner. My initiial reaction was this: So she had the hots for a co-worker; that is irrelevant to the infinitely graver charge that Trump, though odious machinations more common to banana republics, tried to steal an election and abort democratic processes.
Then I sufferred to hear her dim-witted testimony. 2 aspects of her testimony sickened me:
1) She asked the prosecutor, "What continent is Beliize in." Her intellectual mediocrity appalled me. I wonder what her LSAT score was.
2) She testified that she had cash transactions with her lover and that individual transactions totaled thousands of dollars. She also said that in her home she has up to 9K in cash. I know that drug dealers often prefer cash transactions as do terrorists and Anthony Soprano's friends. I got a sick feeling upon learning that a prosecutor has the same mores as the criminal class.
IF TRUMP IS LET OFF THE HOOK, IT WILL BE, IN PART, BECAUSE OF THE COLLAPSE OF STANDARDS IN OUR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SOCIETY. Fani Willis is a perfect example of why many people who hate Trump's guts will vote for him.
If Trump is let off the hook it will be largely due to the tyranny of governmental rule by a minority party that operates everywhere from state capitals to Washington DC. They have cleverly exploited the U.S. Constitution to gerrymander the U.S. House of Representatives, fill the U.S. Senate with members from empty states, capture the U.S. presidency by means of an undemocratic Electoral College, and dominate the U.S. Supreme Court by means of minority Senate rule by filibuster.
Of course, the GOP is a tyrannical, undemocratic institution dedicated to the proposition that the eradication of human freedom and the exaltation of the monied few is next to godliness.
We Dems should be able to skewer and slaughter them in debate, in the polls, in the competition for ideas. However, one of the reasons why we fail stems from the huge numbers of exceptionally mediocre people in our ranks.
For example, I once debated with a dem activist about the mid East. She declareed her preferences: First, she said she was on the side of the Egyptians. Then she said she was on the side of the "Arabians." Fiinally she indicated that her heart belonged to the Iranians. She did not know who she was for. She only knew that she enjoyed expressing her hatred for the Jews and Israel.
Just a reminder of the scope and importance of the upcoming ruling by Judge McAfee - the following list of indictments is under threat of being extinguished by an adverse ruling against DA Willis:
THE STATE OF GEORGIA V. DONALD JOHN TRUMP Counts 1,5,9,11,13,15,17,19,27,29,38-39 - RUDOLPH WILLIAM LOUIS GIULIANI Counts 1-3,6-7,9,11,13,15,17,19, 23-24 - JOHN C EASTMAN Counts 1-2,9, 11,13,15,17,19,27 - MARK RANDALL MEADOWS Counts 1,28 - KENNETH JOHN CHESEBRO Counts 1, 9,11,13,15,17,19 (separately pleaded guilty to one count) - JEFFREY BOSSERT CLARK Counts 1,22 - JENNA LYNN ELLIS Counts 1,2 - RAY STALLINGS SMIITH III Counts 1-2,4,6,9,11,13,15,17,19,23,25 - ROBERT DAVID CHEELEY Counts 1,9,11,13,15,17,19,23,26,41 - MICHAEL A. ROMAN Counts 1,9,11,13,15,17,19 - DAVID JAMES SHAFER Counts 1,8,10,12,14,16,18,40 - SIDNEY KATHERINE POWELL Counts 1,32-37 (separately pleaded guilty to six counts) - and 7 other defendants in this criminal indictment comprising 41 separate counts of fraudulent and/or conspiratorial actions allegedly to undermine the legal election in Georgia and prosecuted under the GA Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act.
If someday soon Judge Scott McAfee throws this necessary prosecution under the bus, that day will be remembered as a day of national infamy for centuries to come.
Fani Willis could resign. Then the county commissioners could appoint an acting district attorney.
An excellent article. Having been a Fulton County voter I had special interest in the facts and listened to that audio call more than once. The whole time thinking that it would never be acceptable for any Democratic president to make such a call so how could it be possible for a republican president. I still can’t understand how anyone of a clear mind could not listen to the call with Trump and the Ga SoS and see exactly how corrupt Trump is. Thanks for the good and important work gentlemen.
Amen. Trump is complicit and to fail to see him as a corrupt person is to fail to see, period. Although, apparently many people refuse to understand what this means for themselves and the country. What a low point for our country.
What is of concern to me is that so many are disregarding the fact that Trump and his campaign staff actually were attempting to overturn the election. I see this trail as another distraction from the facts of the case! I read a funny story today regarding the fake elector strategy. One or more “fake electors” say they were tricked into becoming a fake elector! Sure they were!👺
Trial, not trail
Thanks to all for an excellent discussion on what is the legal complex situation that might allow to go forward one of the most decisive political trials in American history